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Rule Update - April 2015 [Read last post]

Post by Collins » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:55 pm

Firstly the following topic and hard work on the complete rule update must go to Conspiracy who took the task on and completed all of this alone with input from the staff team.
Updates to the server rules have been made and are going to be live as of now.

You can find the new rules in the this section. You are highly advised to read through them as soon as possible.

To sum up, the main goal of this rule update was to achieve greater clarity by making the server rules more compact, simple and easy to understand. We wanted you to invest more time in playing the game and having fun, instead of reading long, boring posts here on the forum. All of the server rules underwent cosmetic changes, we rephrased a lot of things, merged some rules, removed irrelevant information and basically restructured everything. A few technical changes were made, yes, but they are a few — you can find more information about them in the changelog below.
  • The total word count of our server rules has been reduced from 9825 to 4881.
In-game Rules
  • The old In-game Rules topic had a total of 4939 words in it. The new one has 2145.
    The old In-game Rules topic had 25 rules in it. The new one has 11.
NEW: Abuse of SA-MP Physics
  • We decided to merge bunnyhopping, olympic swimming, hopping/tapping on bikes/motorcycles, ninja-jacking, chicken-running and vehicle surfing under one new rule. No actual changes or additions were made.
0. Common Courtesy
  • Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
1. Do Not Metagame.
  • Everything is the same apart from the cosmetic changes and some things that we forgot to include in the past, like /me misuse that can incite metagaming, etc.
2. Do Not Powergame.
  • Everything is still the same, however we've removed some outdated things and applied cosmetic changes. We've also added some extra info about the usage of NPCs in RP and the usage of items that don't exist script-wise.
3. Roleplay at all times
  • Everything that was stated in this rule is pretty much going to stay in effect/existence, but under other rules. No actual additions or changes have been made — in practice, everything is still the same.
4. Do not use third party modifications.
  • Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
5. Do Not Deathmatch
  • Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
6. Do not Bunnyhop
  • Merged into the Abuse of SA-MP Physics rule. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
7. You are allowed to ignore OOC chats during roleplay situations unless an admin is talking to you.
  • Merged into the Common Courtesy rule. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
8. Do not AFK/idle/alt-tab for any longer than 10 minutes or in public. The use of any animations or scripts to stop the script detecting you AFK after 10 minutes is not allowed.
  • Merged into the Common Courtesy rule. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
9. Disgusting or depraved roleplay that may cause offense to those around you requires OOC agreement from all parties involved beforehand.
  • We've added 'Dismemberment' to the list of activities that need OOC permission.
10. Do not violate rules because someone else did against you.
  • Merged into the Common Courtesy rule. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
11. Scamming/Robbery Rules & Regulations
  • The robbery level requirement has been raised from 3 to 5.
  • The scam level requirement has been lowered from 10 to 5.
  • The "extortion on businesses" part of the rule has been removed completely.
  • Loaning scams no longer have a level/money requirement.
  • Loaning properties is no longer protected by the rules. Loan out houses, businesses and vehicles at own risk.
  • Gambling is no longer protected by this rule, just like loaning. This means that there are no level requirements or money limits for gambling scams, and that anyone can scam you via gambling — including legal casinos. So, be careful who you gamble with and for how much money, because they can always run away or play unfair.
  • Raffles (of any type) are no longer going to be protected by this rule since they're a form of gambling.
12. Only members of official factions can do contract kills.
  • Merged into the Deathmatching rule. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
13. You need ingame lead admin permission to burn/destroy a property.
  • Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
14. You're not allowed to give or share your registered accounts to other people.
  • Moved to the UCP/Account Rules. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
15. Do not PM admins regarding admining, especially not admins on adminduty.
  • Merged into the Common Courtesy rule. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
16. Bank robberies require admin approval and supervision.
  • Merged into the Robbing & Scamming rule. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
17. No committing crimes/robberies in certain areas
  • Los Santos High School is now a safezone.
  • Ocean Docks Loading Bay (i.e. the ship used by truckers) is now a safezone.
  • The impound lot is no longer a safezone.
18. Prison Rules/Privileges.
  • We've removed some outdated things that are not needed, applied cosmetic changes and overall did our best to make the rule look more simple. All of the guards-on-duty requirements are still the same. The only huge difference in this rule is that admins will no longer give out shanks. We've found an alternative way of keeping SACF supplied with knives. More information about that will be provided by SADOC to the prison gangs.
19. Illegal Names
  • Moved to the UCP/Account Rules. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
20. No Vehicle Surfing
  • Merged into the Abuse of SA-MP Physics rule. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
21. Administrator instructions are final, whether they are stated in these rules or not
  • Merged into the Common Courtesy rule. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
22. You are required to report bugs to the staff team
  • Merged into the Common Courtesy rule. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
23. You are required to have admin permission for transferring any items to your other characters
  • Moved to the UCP/Account Rules. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
24. You are required to have permission to be in two official factions
  • Moved to the UCP/Account Rules. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
25. No profiting through the means of selling/buying LSRP features/goods.
  • Moved to the UCP/Account Rules. Everything is still the same if we don't count the cosmetic changes.
UCP/Account Rules

We moved 5 of the In-game Rules to the UCP/Account Rules, merged some of the original UCP/Account Rules together and overall applied cosmetic changes. Everything else is technically the same. The size of the UCP/Account Rules has increased, but that's not necessarily bad, since we really wanted them to gain more recognition and importance.
  • The old UCP/Account Rules topic had a total of 658 words in it. The new one has 758.
    The old UCP/Account Rules topic had 5 rules in it. The new one has 7.
Forum Rules

After many discussions it was concluded that the current Forum Rules need some serious restructuring. There was too much information in them, so we decided to summarize everything important into a few paragraphs and remove all irrelevant information. No technical changes were made though, everything is still the same rule-wise.
  • The old Forum Rules topic had a total of 985 words in it. The new one has 210.
    The old Forum Rules topic had 12 rules in it. The new one has 3.
Teamspeak & IRC Rules

The main problem in the Teamspeak & IRC Rules was that they weren't structured in a user-friendly way. The information those two topics had was enormous, yet the actual knowledge you received from them was minimal. To fix this, we've made some cosmetic changes. We didn't delete anything vital though, nor did we add anything new, so technically things are still the same.
  • The old Teamspeak Rules topic had a total of 370 words in it. The new one has 157.
    The old Teamspeak Rules topic had 8 rules in it. The new one has 3.

    The old IRC Rules topic had a total of 506 words in it. The new one has 147.
    The old IRC Rules topic had 7 rules in it. The new one has 2.
Business Rules & House/Apartment Rules

Again, like with the other rules, our main focus here was to make the Property Rules easier to understand, mainly by applying cosmetic changes and deleting irrelevant information. We haven't added/removed anything vital.
  • The old House/Apartment Rules topic had a total of 1035 words in it. The new one has 505.
    The old Business Rules topic had a total of 1332 words in it. The new one has 959.
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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by maccheyne » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:01 pm

GUD. what's up with the robbery level though?
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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by Descendant » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:02 pm

Love the extortion update, nice job.

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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by Adorn. » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:05 pm

Great work Conspiracy.

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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by Guap » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:06 pm

Looks good, what's the reason for the raised robbing level though?

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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by Michael_Rowland » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:07 pm

Hopefully this ends the terrible casino roleplay.
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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by Mofujohn » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:09 pm

The new scam rule about gambling at your own risk in legal casinos is stupid.
Scamming in a legal casino in real life wouldn't really work, you could just sue the whole casino for that.

People buy casinos for 80+ million because they know people will go to it to gamble, as they feel safe as they cannot be scammed. What's the point of buying a casino for 80+ million when I can just furnish my 200k house into a casino interior.

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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by Adorn. » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:11 pm

Robbery level was increased due to that being the level where most of the new players become more mature and familiar with the server.

Reminder: If you guys have any questions about the new update you can post them in the dedicated threads in http://forum.ls-rp.com/viewforum.php?f=354.

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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by Leroy » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:11 pm

Adorn. wrote:Great work Conspiracy.

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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by DRUNKY » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:11 pm

Nicely put, thanks to everyone who partook in the discussion.
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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by nine to yo dome » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:11 pm

Collins wrote:Raffles (of any type) are no longer going to be protected by this rule since they're a form of gambling.
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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by Agosto » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:12 pm

Just to clarify something;
Vehicle surfing — being on top of a vehicle to ride it, instead of being inside of it. This includes pretending someone is in the trunk of your car while they are actually on the roof. If you wish to kidnap someone and roleplay them as being in the trunk, they will have to occupy a script-wise seat.
What about riding in the back of trucks such as the Yosemite? Does this rule apply to that as well?
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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by Prizz » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:13 pm

Great work.

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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by wlfeh » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:13 pm

Excellent work Conspiracy, you have truly outdone yourself!
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Re: Rule Update - April 2015:

Post by Bear » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:13 pm

Awesome, looks really good. Thanks Conspiracy.
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