[Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Find all the Laws and Acts of San Andreas in this forum.

Also contains the full Penal Code to list all crimes and punishments.

Moderator: Senior Lead Admins

Post Reply
User avatar
Iudex
Spam Machine
Spam Machine
Posts: 5650
Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:15 am
Ingame name: Skylar Kimura
Contact:

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by Iudex » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:03 am

Mash wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:11 pm
(4)17. Misuse Of A Government Hotline ↑
  • A person who uses an emergency government hotline for any purpose other than an emergency situation which involves a life-or-death request for assistance or other purposes dictated by the hotline managers.
  • A person who uses any non-emergency or public hotline for purposes irrelevant to that particular government office, department, or agency.
  • A person who performs prank calls, fake calls, or tries to incite mayhem through public government lines
- Penal Code (4)17 is an infraction of $1,500.
- Upon the third offense Penal Code (4)17 is a misdemeanor punishable by no less 25 minutes imprisonment and no more than 50 minutes imprisonment. This falls under Officer Discretion.
People whom prank the police face to face, is it justified to cite them for misuse of a government hotline?
No.
Image

User avatar
ImperiumXVII
Assistant Head of Legal Factions
Posts: 1427
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:41 pm
Ingame name: Zachary_Cook
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by ImperiumXVII » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:54 pm

Mash wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:11 pm
I'd believe it needs to be added, or amended, that people will be fined for pranking the authorities regardless how it is reported.
People who prank face-to-face can be charged with (4)11. Obstruction Of A Government Employee:
San Andreas State Clerk wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:14 am
(4)11. Obstruction Of A Government Employee
  1. A person who shows a clear and motivated attempt to prevent a government employee from conducting their duties.
  2. A person who fails to comply with an officer's lawful orders.
  3. A person who, after being issued a ticket, citation, or infraction, continues to violate such law and ignore an officer’s orders.
  4. A person who enters a crime scene after being told to stop and turn away by a Peace Officer.
- Penal Code (4)11 is a misdemeanor punishable by no less than 20 minutes imprisonment and no more than 30 minutes imprisonment.
NOTES: show
A government employee would need to contact a peace officer to get the charge of Obstruction issued.
A person making a false report as a prank is clearly trying to divert police attention away from actual emergencies, and thus is trying to prevent a government employee from conducting their duties.
Police Deputy Chief David Zhuo
Police Captain II Joseph McRae
Police Lieutenant I Clarke Walker
Reserve Firefighter Danielle Garceau
Associate Justice Eric Cradle
State Bar Chairman Raphael Pachlinski
Developer
Junior Administrator
Assistant Head of Legal Factions

User avatar
Justitiae
"Non ducor, duco."
Posts: 259
Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:51 am
Ingame name: Cecil Grosvenor
Location: Waddesdon Manor
Contact:

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by Justitiae » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:47 pm

Imperium wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:54 pm
Mash wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:11 pm
I'd believe it needs to be added, or amended, that people will be fined for pranking the authorities regardless how it is reported.
People who prank face-to-face can be charged with (4)11. Obstruction Of A Government Employee:
San Andreas State Clerk wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:14 am
(4)11. Obstruction Of A Government Employee
  1. A person who shows a clear and motivated attempt to prevent a government employee from conducting their duties.
  2. A person who fails to comply with an officer's lawful orders.
  3. A person who, after being issued a ticket, citation, or infraction, continues to violate such law and ignore an officer’s orders.
  4. A person who enters a crime scene after being told to stop and turn away by a Peace Officer.
- Penal Code (4)11 is a misdemeanor punishable by no less than 20 minutes imprisonment and no more than 30 minutes imprisonment.
NOTES: show
A government employee would need to contact a peace officer to get the charge of Obstruction issued.
A person making a false report as a prank is clearly trying to divert police attention away from actual emergencies, and thus is trying to prevent a government employee from conducting their duties.
Couldn't have said it any better. :P

Image SECRETARY Isaac M. Disraeli
SECRETARY OF STATE
OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR

27TH MAY - PRESENT

Image DIRECTOR Giuseppe di Monteverdi
ADVOCACY BUREAU
PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS DIVISION

21ST MAY - PRESENT
Image

"A son can bear with equanimity the loss of his father,
but the loss of his inheritance may drive him to despair."
—Niccolò Machiavelli

MEMBER OF GOVERNMENT COUNCIL / DISCUSSIONS

Image

User avatar
FlowN
Almost Human
Almost Human
Posts: 1263
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:56 pm
Ingame name: Daniel Holt
Location: Romania
Contact:

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by FlowN » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:52 pm

The tickets are underestimated - if only the prices would be raised to ten or fives times the current prices, maybe people would start caring.
There are also lots of important laws missing which would make a huge difference in reality - for example driving a vehicle with the headlights off or driving a badly damaged vehicle.
SENATOR DANIEL BRIAN HOLT - CREATING CHANGE | THE SAN ANDREAS REPUBLICAN PARTY
CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT | COMMUNITY THREAD

User avatar
MoralesLSRP
Wannabe Don
Wannabe Don
Posts: 1167
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:21 am

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by MoralesLSRP » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:24 pm

FlowN wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:52 pm
The tickets are underestimated - if only the prices would be raised to ten or fives times the current prices, maybe people would start caring.
There are also lots of important laws missing which would make a huge difference in reality - for example driving a vehicle with the headlights off or driving a badly damaged vehicle.
In the previous Governor's Office, we declined to add the headlight rule or the damage rule due to how many stupid lag wrecks happen that cause damage without anyone's fault.
Image
Retired Faction Leader (Chief Justice) of the Courts of San Andreas / Retired Tester / Retired Government Management (Faction Management)
Current Characters: Alice Evans (Retired Chief Justice) | | Alexis Addison (Private Attorney)

Fly high, Pitch. We love you.

User avatar
Crower
E36 Enthusiast
E36 Enthusiast
Posts: 1368
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:17 pm
Ingame name: N H
Location: Zagreb's finest.

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by Crower » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:50 pm

Crower wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:52 pm
(8)02. Eluding A Peace Officer ↑
A person who, while operating or being in a vehicle on land, sea, or in air, or while operating a bicycle, willfully flees or otherwise attempts to elude or avoid a pursuing peace officer who communicates visually or audibly their request to pull over or stop.
This charge does not include the attempt to flee and elude by foot, which is (4)12. Resisting a Peace Officer.
- Penal Code (8)02 is a felony punishable by no less than 120 minutes imprisonment and no more than 180 minutes imprisonment, and revocation of their drivers license for between twelve (12) and thirty-six (36) hours at the officer’s discretion.
- If the person evaded at any time through areas with dense foot traffic such as, but not limited to, Idlewood, Jefferson, Pershing Square, Market, or in any area designated as a school zone, they shall receive 180 minutes imprisonment.
- If the person evaded from a felony stop, they shall receive 180 minutes imprisonment.
- If the person evaded while operating high-performance or oversized motor-vehicle on land, they shall receive 240 minutes imprisonment. This enhancement only applies to vehicles categorized below:

High-Performance: Buffalo, Comet, Turismo, Bullet, Cheetah, Infernus, Banshee, ZR-350, Super GT, Phoenix, Jester, Elegy
Oversized: Linerunner, Roadtrain, Trashmaster, Bus, Coach, Packers, Flatbed

Why isn't the Flash and Sultan included under high performance? They still fall into that category, considering the Sultan is a sports sedan, and the flash is a tuner vehicle. They still fall under high-performance vehicles that can easily evade the PD/SD units.
This still wasn't adressed, even though it should be. People are starting to use Flashes and FCR's, Sultans and Voodoo's to avoid the high performance charge.
Image

User avatar
Tiddles6
Mafia
Mafia
Posts: 359
Joined: Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:01 am

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by Tiddles6 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:12 pm

How does an LEO go about getting the court fines imposed on people we arrest? I saw it mentioned earlier in the thread

User avatar
MoralesLSRP
Wannabe Don
Wannabe Don
Posts: 1167
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:21 am

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by MoralesLSRP » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:16 pm

Tiddles6 wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:12 pm
How does an LEO go about getting the court fines imposed on people we arrest? I saw it mentioned earlier in the thread
You have to actually take them to Court (through the DA) as opposed to the arrest-then-prison method. The Court fines were added as a way to compensate the DA's office for taking the time to do a bunch of case prep and forum work involved with Court.
Image
Retired Faction Leader (Chief Justice) of the Courts of San Andreas / Retired Tester / Retired Government Management (Faction Management)
Current Characters: Alice Evans (Retired Chief Justice) | | Alexis Addison (Private Attorney)

Fly high, Pitch. We love you.

User avatar
FlowN
Almost Human
Almost Human
Posts: 1263
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:56 pm
Ingame name: Daniel Holt
Location: Romania
Contact:

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by FlowN » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:36 pm

MoralesLSRP wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:24 pm
In the previous Governor's Office, we declined to add the headlight rule or the damage rule due to how many stupid lag wrecks happen that cause damage without anyone's fault.
Most of the time it isn't even lag, it's just people driving recklessly and blaming the consequences of their actions on lag and we all know it. The visual damage also fixes itself in case the cause of the damage was the bad connection.

And about the ticket amounts, I strongly believe that if they were increased drastically people would start being more considerate on how they approach driving and maybe even read the road law.
SENATOR DANIEL BRIAN HOLT - CREATING CHANGE | THE SAN ANDREAS REPUBLICAN PARTY
CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT | COMMUNITY THREAD

User avatar
ImperiumXVII
Assistant Head of Legal Factions
Posts: 1427
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:41 pm
Ingame name: Zachary_Cook
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by ImperiumXVII » Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:41 am

FlowN wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:36 pm
And about the ticket amounts, I strongly believe that if they were increased drastically people would start being more considerate on how they approach driving and maybe even read the road law.
This is one of the reasons the DOJ uses criminal fines so much. Nobody cares about jailtime, but people do care about their money. If you could be fined $750,000 for committing murder and a bunch of other felonies, on top of a 10-hour jail sentence, you might think twice about it. I believe the same would work for infractions, although I don't think infractions could be realistically raised in a way that actually deters repeat offenders.
Police Deputy Chief David Zhuo
Police Captain II Joseph McRae
Police Lieutenant I Clarke Walker
Reserve Firefighter Danielle Garceau
Associate Justice Eric Cradle
State Bar Chairman Raphael Pachlinski
Developer
Junior Administrator
Assistant Head of Legal Factions

User avatar
Trevon
Gangster
Gangster
Posts: 95
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:19 pm
Ingame name: Wallace Mortimer
Location: Netherlands

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by Trevon » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:29 pm

Maybe not raising the amount of the fines but allowing law enforcers to issue more fines per road law incident. For example, if someone runs 2 intersections in a row, allow the law enforcer to issue 2 fines for that.

nicolasestla
Wannabe Mafia
Wannabe Mafia
Posts: 191
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:07 pm
Ingame name: Jeffrey_Connor
Location: France

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by nicolasestla » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:19 pm

I got a suggestion :
Vehicular Endangerment should grant right for any LEO to suspend the license of the suspect. It's bad that when someone commits several serious traffic violation, and he just gets 15 minutes in jail, and exit without driver's license warnings suspension or fines.
And yes I think that the Failure to pay a fine's jail time should be considering the amount that the person owns to the state.

Kimberino
Wannabe Mafia
Wannabe Mafia
Posts: 163
Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:51 am
Location: Home of the Brave

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by Kimberino » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:53 am

Battery WDW.

You got Assault WDW, fill the gap between attempted murder lmao.

User avatar
Gibbz
Wannabe Don
Wannabe Don
Posts: 1288
Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:57 am
Ingame name: Gibbs Brown

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by Gibbz » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:14 am

D.Kimber wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:53 am
Battery WDW.

You got Assault WDW, fill the gap between attempted murder lmao.
Technically that could be aggravated battery, because it is a "great use of force."
CHIEF OF POLICE GIBBS BROWN

User avatar
Amity
Wannabe Don
Wannabe Don
Posts: 1476
Joined: Thu May 29, 2014 8:42 pm
Ingame name: Gavin Fulkerson
Location: Australia

Re: [Discussions / Questions] San Andreas Penal Code

Post by Amity » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:13 am

Could we get loitering added to the Penal Code? It's a valuable tool for Police to stop the selling of narcotics on corners.
no longer roleplay

Post Reply

Return to “Laws & Acts of San Andreas”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users