[IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by iGo » Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:34 am

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KayaQue wrote:Can we rob trucks (RPly rob liquor of the truck) if the trucker is below level 3?
It doesn't effect the player at all, it's only role play.


I had that in mind, like one of the Mobs biggest money makers is lifting trucks and taking the contents. But you are more than welcome to get an LSRP trucker to try and stop at a road-block.


No, not allowed. The player is still not level 3.

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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by Extracool32 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:52 pm

you can rob your money back at anytime, right?

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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by Fibs » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:53 pm

Extracool32 wrote:you can rob your money back at anytime, right?


Yes.
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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by Tomsc » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:39 pm

RichardC wrote:If you already intend to kill someone and RP taking their money as an added bonus, why do people claim you can't kill them after?

E.g. your boss orders you to kill someone. You take the person out to the desert and before you kill them, take their money and phone. You now supposedly can't kill them because you robbed them?


Exactly. Either you kill with valid reason or rob. You can't do both.
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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by Tomsc » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:56 pm

Contract kills are whole different from these ones. If you get a contract kill you get paid prior or after the kill by another person not by the victim itself. Rule stats that you can't rob and kill if the victim doesn't provoke it. However you can always /pm the victim and ask if he'd like to play out this RP scene with robbing and killing. Up to two parties, imo but the admins have the final say.
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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by Morin » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:46 am

Tomsc wrote:Contract kills are whole different from these ones. If you get a contract kill you get paid prior or after the kill by another person not by the victim itself. Rule stats that you can't rob and kill if the victim doesn't provoke it. However you can always /pm the victim and ask if he'd like to play out this RP scene with robbing and killing. Up to two parties, imo but the admins have the final say.

The rules also state you can't do contract kills, so that is that.
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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by Chefboy » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:04 am

The scamming rule REALLY needs some refreshing.

If I try to scam someone but won't go above 50.000$ the player is AUTOMATICALLY suspicious.

Player1: Give me 52,000$ worth of drugs.
Player2: I can only give you like 45,000$ worth of drugs.
Player1: Get lost.

See what I mean? That fifty thousand dollar line makes it really easy to MG the scam.
We should be allowed to scam ABOVE the limit but then GIVE the rest back AFTER the scam. That would turn the above scenario into something like this.

Player1: Hey man, I can afford like 100,000 worth of drugs.
Player2: All right man, pass me the money.
Player1 passes the money to Player2.
Player2 runs away and gives back the other 50,000 later on.

Maybe not something like this but I'm just shooting out new ideas.

This makes it nearly impossible to MG the scam because of a stupid limit. Don't get me wrong, the limit is good but rules need to be added to make it less confusing and headaching.
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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by RebeccaGetUpStandUp » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:58 am

Chefboy wrote:The scamming rule REALLY needs some refreshing.

If I try to scam someone but won't go above 50.000$ the player is AUTOMATICALLY suspicious.

Player1: Give me 52,000$ worth of drugs.
Player2: I can only give you like 45,000$ worth of drugs.
Player1: Get lost.

See what I mean? That fifty thousand dollar line makes it really easy to MG the scam.
We should be allowed to scam ABOVE the limit but then GIVE the rest back AFTER the scam. That would turn the above scenario into something like this.

Player1: Hey man, I can afford like 100,000 worth of drugs.
Player2: All right man, pass me the money.
Player1 passes the money to Player2.
Player2 runs away and gives back the other 50,000 later on.

Maybe not something like this but I'm just shooting out new ideas.

This makes it nearly impossible to MG the scam because of a stupid limit. Don't get me wrong, the limit is good but rules need to be added to make it less confusing and headaching.


You could probably do it though, order 100k worth of stuff take it, then give half of it back with the cmd so it doesn't exceed 50k, no rule was broked, you only took 50k worth of stuff and did it in a way so he wouldn't MG you plan to scam him.
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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by Mmartin » Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:09 pm

RebeccaGetUpStandUp wrote:You could probably do it though, order 100k worth of stuff take it, then give half of it back with the cmd so it doesn't exceed 50k, no rule was broked, you only took 50k worth of stuff and did it in a way so he wouldn't MG you plan to scam him.

You can't do that.

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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by Nogga » Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:09 pm

Chefboy wrote:The scamming rule REALLY needs some refreshing.

If I try to scam someone but won't go above 50.000$ the player is AUTOMATICALLY suspicious.

Player1: Give me 52,000$ worth of drugs.
Player2: I can only give you like 45,000$ worth of drugs.
Player1: Get lost.

See what I mean? That fifty thousand dollar line makes it really easy to MG the scam.
We should be allowed to scam ABOVE the limit but then GIVE the rest back AFTER the scam. That would turn the above scenario into something like this.

Player1: Hey man, I can afford like 100,000 worth of drugs.
Player2: All right man, pass me the money.
Player1 passes the money to Player2.
Player2 runs away and gives back the other 50,000 later on.

Maybe not something like this but I'm just shooting out new ideas.

This makes it nearly impossible to MG the scam because of a stupid limit. Don't get me wrong, the limit is good but rules need to be added to make it less confusing and headaching.

Then you report them for metagaming because that is against the rules too. But there is an almost immediate suspicion that arises at the $50,000 mark, yes.
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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by Chefboy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:10 pm

Nogga wrote:Then you report them for metagaming because that is against the rules too. But there is an almost immediate suspicion that arises at the $50,000 mark, yes.

You can't prove it, though.
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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by Shawnhart » Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:06 am

I don't think the 'you can't kill the person you rob unless he provokes you' rule is good, if you find a rival gang member you'd probably want to rob and kill them, or any other similiar reason, it needs to be changed.
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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by Chefboy » Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:39 am

I agree, you should be able to rob a dead person but ONLY if the person was dead first.
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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by Samoel » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:29 pm

Chefboy wrote:The scamming rule REALLY needs some refreshing.

If I try to scam someone but won't go above 50.000$ the player is AUTOMATICALLY suspicious.

Player1: Give me 52,000$ worth of drugs.
Player2: I can only give you like 45,000$ worth of drugs.
Player1: Get lost.

See what I mean? That fifty thousand dollar line makes it really easy to MG the scam.
We should be allowed to scam ABOVE the limit but then GIVE the rest back AFTER the scam. That would turn the above scenario into something like this.

Player1: Hey man, I can afford like 100,000 worth of drugs.
Player2: All right man, pass me the money.
Player1 passes the money to Player2.
Player2 runs away and gives back the other 50,000 later on.

Maybe not something like this but I'm just shooting out new ideas.

This makes it nearly impossible to MG the scam because of a stupid limit. Don't get me wrong, the limit is good but rules need to be added to make it less confusing and headaching.


Sorry but I can't agree with you because then everyone will prefer to scam rather than not.. It pays more.
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Re: [IG] 11 - Scamming/Robbery rules

Post by Budzilla420 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:29 pm

Are you allowed to rob services? For example call a mechanic to come fix dents, and them force him at gun point to fix them for free.
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