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Re: Actual Juvenile

Post by ReseT » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:00 pm

Even with taken all of the aforementioned into consideration, I'd be against implementing this. As far as I'm aware, DOC doesn't have a high activity from the prisoners' side as it is (at least when it comes to RP), separating all of them into different sections would only lower the activity which is already quite low.

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Re: Actual Juvenile

Post by FlowN » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:23 pm

Neaksy wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:25 pm
FlowN wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:49 pm
Neaksy wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:07 am
Players shouldn't be roleplaying that to begin with. It's powergaming or at the very least very poor roleplay. It should be punished.
A lot of stuff should or shouldn't happen. What can you do about it? Nothing.
Very simple:

Punish unrealistic portrayals of underage characters as a powergaming offense.

This is a roleplay server. Nobody should have to see 9 year old kids drifting around the Mall in Cheetahs.
That would be very subjective. Everyone role plays their characters differently, therefore each punishment would be issued on a case by case basis, therefore there will be a lot of complaining and confusion between what is ok and what is not.

You can't do much about it, unless it's ridiculously excessive. This is still a game and in no way we're going to be able to recreate reality here.
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Re: Actual Juvenile

Post by Neaksy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:51 pm

FlowN wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:23 pm
Neaksy wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:25 pm
Very simple:

Punish unrealistic portrayals of underage characters as a powergaming offense.

This is a roleplay server. Nobody should have to see 9 year old kids drifting around the Mall in Cheetahs.
That would be very subjective. Everyone role plays their characters differently, therefore each punishment would be issued on a case by case basis, therefore there will be a lot of complaining and confusion between what is ok and what is not.

You can't do much about it, unless it's ridiculously excessive. This is still a game and in no way we're going to be able to recreate reality here.
Rules would deter people from roleplaying unrealistic things. Plus it's very obvious that it's unrealistic and poor RP when a less than 13 year old kid drifts around in an Elegy etc continuously. And no, despite LSRP being a game, the goal should be to recreate a realistic environment. The things that we just described are not.

To be honest I think RPing kids should be banned altogether. At the VERY least RP under 13 should be banned. There's too much abuse, trolling and sub-par roleplay. When I was in LSFD CPS, juvenile roleplay was the worst. There were the same two or three cringe-worthy 8 year olds constantly crawling and wandering about around the mall, getting run over by car out of boredom, getting stuck on the other side of a fence, and going in black neighborhoods likely to get attacked, and even provoking people. Every other day or so they'd get brutally wounded or require FD or law enforcement intervention because most of what they roleplay is illegal. Nothing about this is realistic. CPS has almost no authority, because for OOC reasons we must ICly let them go out to find roleplay.

It's always the same thing. Roleplaying underage kids is always the same thing because as a child you have limited possibilities. Most kids don't go out, and in a city like Los Santos there's no way anybody in their right mind would let them. In the first world that would be child abuse. They would either be at school during the day or home. Juvenile population in SA is so small that they have nobody else to RP with to at least do something fruitful. If they're not orphans, then the only RP they'd get is in their parents' house. But in most cases people roleplay orphan kids. LSRP isn't fitted for children characters.

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Re: Actual Juvenile

Post by Alex_Hawkins » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:36 pm

Neaksy wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:51 pm
FlowN wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:23 pm
Neaksy wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:25 pm
Very simple:

Punish unrealistic portrayals of underage characters as a powergaming offense.

This is a roleplay server. Nobody should have to see 9 year old kids drifting around the Mall in Cheetahs.
That would be very subjective. Everyone role plays their characters differently, therefore each punishment would be issued on a case by case basis, therefore there will be a lot of complaining and confusion between what is ok and what is not.

You can't do much about it, unless it's ridiculously excessive. This is still a game and in no way we're going to be able to recreate reality here.
Rules would deter people from roleplaying unrealistic things. Plus it's very obvious that it's unrealistic and poor RP when a less than 13 year old kid drifts around in an Elegy etc continuously. And no, despite LSRP being a game, the goal should be to recreate a realistic environment. The things that we just described are not.

To be honest I think RPing kids should be banned altogether. At the VERY least RP under 13 should be banned. There's too much abuse, trolling and sub-par roleplay. When I was in LSFD CPS, juvenile roleplay was the worst. There were the same two or three cringe-worthy 8 year olds constantly crawling and wandering about around the mall, getting run over by car out of boredom, getting stuck on the other side of a fence, and going in black neighborhoods likely to get attacked, and even provoking people. Every other day or so they'd get brutally wounded or require FD or law enforcement intervention because most of what they roleplay is illegal. Nothing about this is realistic. CPS has almost no authority, because for OOC reasons we must ICly let them go out to find roleplay.

It's always the same thing. Roleplaying underage kids is always the same thing because as a child you have limited possibilities. Most kids don't go out, and in a city like Los Santos there's no way anybody in their right mind would let them. In the first world that would be child abuse. They would either be at school during the day or home. Juvenile population in SA is so small that they have nobody else to RP with to at least do something fruitful. If they're not orphans, then the only RP they'd get is in their parents' house. But in most cases people roleplay orphan kids. LSRP isn't fitted for children characters.
Nailed it. I once tried to RP an 11 y/o orphan from Crenshaw but ended up with no motivation because of the way my character was treated as if he was a married man who got charged 1,000 for a taxi and had to pay it due to the OOC scam rule. A month or so ago, someone gave 10,000 to someone RPing a 'poor' 10 y/o kid who needed 10,000 for his 'school fees'. Minutes later, I see him drifting in an Elegy and so does the guy who paid him. I guess that says it. LS-RP isn't fitting for children characters and whoever does RP them, ends up getting bored and tries to get some action by evading.

I read someone say that 'who RPs handling a gun as a 9 y/o', oh you don't know my friend. 28 days in PD, with the peak being 300 players and as a Police Officer I (restricted rank compared to others), I encountered someone who shot 2 cops dead and then put an /ame saying they were 12 and asked to be let go because he was just a child. I thank God that he did not say 'I thought it was a toy', otherwise I'd have quit LS-RP (not literally lol). The point once again is that there are very few people RPing children and most of them are outside their house all the time on a BMX swearing to any African-American they find in Idlewood or to the PD, just another unrecognized form of power gaming in my opinion, which should be enforced and anyone showing no fear to grownups while being a 10 y/o gets punished.
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Re: Actual Juvenile

Post by JGlizzy » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:51 am

I currently RP 13, I've been roleplaying kids for as long as I know, and I must say It's a hard task, It is not easy. I Roleplay a legal kid who goes to school during the day, but most of the times I'm stuck with having to idle somewhere in the middle of the night simply because there's nothing for me to RP. It's gotten to the point where I have to NPC living at CPS because there's literally no CPS workers.

Although if you can find people to RP with it is really fun, I enjoy it atleast. I must agree with the above comments, most people who RP children tend to go around in cars, and killing people with guns, and then do /ame is 12 with expectations of being released by Police.
If there was more recreational activies in LS-RP, and hell even more people RPing kids then I think everything would be better for the current situation of children RP.
Most resort to getting run over out of boredom to get some RP with FD or they go RP in gangs. Legal kid RP which is portrayed 100% realistic is I'd say 100% impossible with the current LS-RP resources. CPS is dead, there isn't even a small place where kids can go to play or do something fun or even a small little school to encourage people to RP children. It's whatever though, I've got used to it.

Although let's not place all fault on children, Taxi Drivers, restaurant workers, police, and other players all treat us like we are adults. Even yesterday me and my friend who RP 14 were put at gun point, and robbed out of our money while walking to school. ( Bare in mind I don't even carry cash on me for RP purposes so he took nothing ), when in real life would a robber pull up to a kid, and point a gun " EMPTY UR POCKET KIDS!!! ", Kids don't have cash. Most they'll have is like 5$ for lunch money, I've also been multiple times targeted, and attacked for no reason just because I was a defensless kid, not to mention the taxi drivers who automatically treat you like an adult and assume you got enough money to pay for the ride, and LSPD who thinks that every child roleplayer is a troll.
Even if you commit the slightlest of crimes like robbing a beer from a 24/7 LSPD / SASD will treat you like a high wanted suspect and arrest you and treat you like an adult.

Both kid, and both adult Rpers are at fault in this case, we need to balance things out, and really create something that would allow more serious people to RP kids, I've seen alot of them but they end up moving on to another things because of limited possibilities.
CPS was our last hope unfortunately it died down, but I count on FloW, and the rest of the new GOV faction to do a good job, and I'm sure they'll make something new.
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Re: Actual Juvenile

Post by Desert Ghost » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:43 am

Kid role-play on LS-RP already is somewhat abused. Kid's I have seen, buy cars and drive them I seen a kid who was driving a ELEGY and when on Patrol with Sheriff's Department we stopped them. Now why would these kids have these cars? if these people who role-play kids can buy guns, cars, houses et cetra. And they can run from Police or Sheriff's Department. Why can they NOT survive a prison of grown up's?
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Re: Actual Juvenile

Post by Desert Ghost » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:45 am

Now if you can role-play a child who IS realistic and has no cars, no guns, no houses and nothing that a child wouldn't have. Then hey good for you but don't expect to buy these things, show them off around the servers. Then get pissed you go to SACF for possession of drugs, or guns, or fleeing and eluding.
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Re: Actual Juvenile

Post by quezd » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:40 am

I'll be happy to help.
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Re: Actual Juvenile

Post by Conwell » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:26 am

There are people who RP teenager gang members (15-16) who get into troubles prison worthy (fight cops, or even shoot) on daily basis. There should be juvenile as it would create better RP environment for prison gangs and separate them from teenagers in prison, creating another RP environment for teenagers.

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Re: Actual Juvenile

Post by HotHead » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:36 am

Why can we not just have County Jail as a main stay for child RPers, but have a percentage of the police on to RP around the County Jail etcetc because we seem to have over like 30-40 police on at a time, and have about 4 DOC at the most. We need more balance not /everyone/ can be a police officer. I mean half of the people in PD are unrealistic, especially when it comes to RPing around teenagers. I RP'ed slap-boxing with a friend and was arrested for battery after explaining IC and in /do's that we were just slap boxing, where I was completely ignored
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Re: Actual Juvenile

Post by HotHead » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:38 am

DOC need to pick up on their RP aswell.. All I see is them just sitting there, they should be having random shakedowns of blocks etcetc random pat downs of certain inmates etcetc.
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Re: Actual Juvenile

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Re: Actual Juvenile

Post by Puro Norte » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:02 am

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha i agree

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Re: Actual Juvenile

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Re: Actual Juvenile

Post by Quirii » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:25 pm

FlowN wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:31 pm
In reality 9 year olds don't drive Lambos while escaping the police after robbing an old lady with a fully automatic weapon either.

Dividing the prison in so many "sections" would drain all the activity (which is already too little).
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