Bring back the original /siren position

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Bring back the original /siren position

Post by WhiteShadow » Thu May 14, 2015 11:51 pm

Adjust the siren object back to it's original position (The dashboard) for the premier, sultan, and other vehicles (except the Rancher as it has the blue light and having two sirens looks weird) to how it was before the 0.3.7 update, it's an eyesore and kind of painful to look at it with how it was adjusted now.
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Re: Returning the original /siren position

Post by LemonPower » Thu May 14, 2015 11:57 pm

I'd like to suggest that the position for the /siren on marked cruisers should be changed to the rear. I'll add screenshots below from some of my old videos with the same feature but in the back. It would serve well during traffic stops and for general visibility during traffic control.

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Re: Returning the original /siren position

Post by Kenshi911 » Fri May 15, 2015 12:06 am

I must admidt, I am really not a fan of removing the entire ELM set up. the vast majority of the people in the LSPD, The SASD and the LSFD are all using it, forcing the removal of something that we all love to play around with and use for general purpose is a very bitter pill to swallow. Rather then outright removing it, can we make sure that there is no possible way to work around that?

Nontheless, I've thought of a way to improve the "compensation" given to everyone for giving up the Emergency light moddification.
My suggestion is to implement the folowing object
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And position it as its real life counterpart, right at the upper-middle section of the windscreen. And use that as a replacement to the current 1980's Michigan state police roofcap.
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Would this be possible?
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Re: Returning the original /siren position

Post by Seabrook » Fri May 15, 2015 12:06 am

LemonPower wrote:I'd like to suggest that the position for the /siren on marked cruisers should be changed to the rear. I'll add screenshots below from some of my old videos with the same feature but in the back. It would serve well during traffic stops and for general visibility during traffic control.

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No thanks, then that makes /siren basically useless, since people in the front of you need to be able to see it too.

I do however suggest that there be a command implemented in-game for /adjustsiren and you can basically adjust the siren to the position you want, kinda like /roadblock.

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Re: Returning the original /siren position

Post by Kenshi911 » Fri May 15, 2015 12:08 am

Seabrook wrote:
LemonPower wrote:I'd like to suggest that the position for the /siren on marked cruisers should be changed to the rear. I'll add screenshots below from some of my old videos with the same feature but in the back. It would serve well during traffic stops and for general visibility during traffic control.

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No thanks, then that makes /siren basically useless, since people in the front of you need to be able to see it too.

I do however suggest that there be a command implemented in-game for /adjustsiren and you can basically adjust the siren to the position you want, kinda like /roadblock.

Input?

Can't we combine my suggestion that was posted after lemonpowers? That way we have a siren in the front and in the back.
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Re: Returning the original /siren position

Post by Seabrook » Fri May 15, 2015 12:09 am

Kenshi911 wrote:
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LemonPower wrote:snip snip

Can't we combine my suggestion that was posted after lemonpowers? That way we have a siren in the front and in the back.


Well, I don't see an issue with it. But Sparx posted something in a different section stating it might cause the server to be unstable, however I am not familiar with server scripting at all so I might be wrong.
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Re: Returning the original /siren position

Post by LemonPower » Fri May 15, 2015 12:10 am

Seabrook wrote:No thanks, then that makes /siren basically useless, since people in the front of you need to be able to see it too.
A traffic stop is never done with the vehicle's front facing away from the vehicle and traffic control is typically done using traffic advisors which are commonly located and only visible from the rear of the vehicle.

Seabrook wrote:I do however suggest that there be a command implemented in-game for /adjustsiren and you can basically adjust the siren to the position you want, kinda like /roadblock.

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I honestly thing there should only be one set position based off the default cruiser model to avoid having floating sirens following cars around.
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Re: Returning the original /siren position

Post by Seabrook » Fri May 15, 2015 12:12 am

LemonPower wrote:
Seabrook wrote:No thanks, then that makes /siren basically useless, since people in the front of you need to be able to see it too.
A traffic stop is never done with the vehicle's front facing away from the vehicle and traffic control is typically done using traffic advisors which are commonly located and only visible from the rear of the vehicle.

Seabrook wrote:I do however suggest that there be a command implemented in-game for /adjustsiren and you can basically adjust the siren to the position you want, kinda like /roadblock.

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I honestly thing there should only be one set position based off the default cruiser model to avoid having floating sirens following cars around.


You are correct, but there also is a siren in the front as-well ;P

But, I don't understand why people can't adjust it to there liking, everyone wants the siren in a different place rather than the other person, lol.

I don't know though, I'm all for the sirens and all, but I will miss ELM.
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Re: Bring back the original /siren position

Post by danielswe » Fri May 15, 2015 12:32 am

Now that ELM is no longer allowed, I think people are going to miss the flashing headlights. I know I will.
So I have a suggestion that Mmartin's own blinker script could provide some help. If you look at the last 5 seconds of the video demonstrating it, that setting where the headlights flash one time each could be used with the /siren command. Along with Kenshi's suggestion with the new siren object.
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Re: Bring back the original /siren position

Post by Kenshi911 » Fri May 15, 2015 1:12 am

I want to follow up by asking, is it possible to allow the nyolc8's EVLS, as this is purely client sided.
It was used to further enhance your ELM setup by throwing more environment lights onto it.
That in combination with Mmartin's blinker script and both my suggestion and lemonpowers suggestion would make for a far better and agreeable compensation. No?
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Re: Bring back the original /siren position

Post by tagtag » Fri May 15, 2015 4:28 pm

Make it adjustable like /adjustgun works right now.
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Re: Bring back the original /siren position

Post by GTAIVCode3 » Fri May 15, 2015 5:02 pm

Moving this to vehicle suggestions.
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Re: Bring back the original /siren position

Post by Seabrook » Wed May 20, 2015 5:55 am

Kenshi911 wrote:I want to follow up by asking, is it possible to allow the nyolc8's EVLS, as this is purely client sided.
It was used to further enhance your ELM setup by throwing more environment lights onto it.
That in combination with Mmartin's blinker script and both my suggestion and lemonpowers suggestion would make for a far better and agreeable compensation. No?

We should make that a seperate suggestion or PM mmartin about it directly, I'm not sure why nyolc8's was disallowed.
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Re: Bring back the original /siren position

Post by LemonPower » Wed May 20, 2015 10:01 am



I honestly think that that is the best position for the siren at this point, even more so considering that that looks just fine on the default (unmodded) LSPD cruiser and pretty much works with all of the most common vehicle mods. It could be used during traffic stops for visibility and other utilities. Though this would mainly be aesthetic it would still be a nice feature.

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And as someone stated previously;
Seabrook wrote:No thanks, then that makes /siren basically useless, since people in the front of you need to be able to see it too.

People in the front don't need to be able to see it, especially during traffic stops as it's completely irrelevant to them considering the scripted siren on vehicles with preexisting light bars would be used for that.

In addition to having the lights in the back it could just stay at it's original position but instead without the siren object so it doesn't look like a MSP patrol car.
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Re: Bring back the original /siren position

Post by Stefanovic » Mon May 25, 2015 1:41 am

Bring back the old siren position pl0x
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